www.probuscoins.fr , base de données des aureliani de Probus

Felicitations Christophe !

longue vie à PROBVS !!!

Superbe travail Christophe ... Vive Probus...et Vava

Que dire de plus si ce n'est m'associer chaleureusement à ce cortège de louanges

this site is super!
may it be possible to know what kind of software you have used to make the site?
I'm trying to find a similar software to organize my collection

barnaba6 a écrit:

Felicitations Christophe !  

longue vie à PROBVS !!!

désolé de te dire cela brutalement Barnaba, mais Probus est mort  

siècle II a écrit:

barnaba6 a écrit:

Felicitations Christophe !  

longue vie à PROBVS !!!

désolé de te dire cela brutalement Barnaba, mais Probus est mort  

Il y a longtemps d'ailleurs ! Et Vava aussi Bruno !

Bravo !!!

J'ai donc commencé à participer

bon courage

Merci pour vos participations actives !

@grigioviola:

Pour le logiciel, il a été créé sur mesure par un professionnel et continue à évoluer selon mes attentes et mes demandes. Il n'est donc pas issu d'un software que l'on peut moduler à sa guise.  Je n'avais pas trouvé de base qui me corresponde et donc, sur les conseils d'Elag qui a fait aussi appel à un informaticien pour créer un logiciel sur mesure pour Nummus bible II, nous sommes parti de mes desirata et de mes exigences pour faire évoluer pas à pas un outils qui réponde au plus près aux besoins pour classer le monnayage de Probus.

grigioviola a écrit:

this site is super!
may it be possible to know what kind of software you have used to make the site?
I'm trying to find a similar software to organize my collection

Try this : http://www.colleconline.com/fr/Home/Index

Hi Christophe,

I noted with great interest that you recently added several coins from Vosper's collection to the database, though most of them had already been published in HO. So my question is: will you limit yourself - at least for now - just to the coins already published in HO or is there finally green light to add his previously unpublished coins to the database?

regards,

Barnaba

Salut Barnaba,

Comme tu le sais, les tractations avec certains collectionneurs sont plus difficile que pour certains. Comme tu le constates, je suis en train de rentrer les monnaies de Mike pour lesquelles j'ai déjà l'autorisation de publication. Je ne peux pas t'en dire beaucoup plus pour l'instant, bien que tu me le demandes tous les 15 jours . Les négociations sont toujours en cours mais en attendant, j'ai encore bien d'autres types à insérer qui ne sont pas représenté sur probuscoins.fr.
Par contre Barnaba, je suis preneur si tu me donnes des liens de monnaies qui ne sont pas encore dans la base. Cela fera avancer les choses plus rapidement.
Bonne journée

Thanks Christophe for your quick answer.

I will give you the links or otherwise indicate them (I assume you are referring to coins from my collection which are not yet on probuscoins.fr).

I propose to start with the following coins which I already posted on this forum:

No. 13, 14, 18, 20, 25, 37, 41, 43, 44, 46, 48, 50, 56, 58, 66, 68, 75, 77, 89, 90

By the way, I noted three descriptions which need to be corrected:

No. 3220 - P M TR P COS P P instead of P M TRI P COS II P P
No. 3275 - SOLI INVICTO AVG instead of SOLI INVICTO
No. 3256 -  Rome instead of Lugdunum

I will now continue with going workshop after workshop, starting with the 4th oriental mint.

4th oriental mint:

I emmission:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=0
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=1
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=3

III emmission:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=4
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=5
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=6
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=7
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=8
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=9
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=10
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=11

IV emmission:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=12
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=13

Ok. that is it for now:) When you are finished with the above coins I will send you more links, continuing with Lugdunum.

barnaba6 a écrit:

No. 3220 - P M TR P COS P P instead of P M TRI P COS II P P
No. 3275 - SOLI INVICTO AVG instead of SOLI INVICTO
No. 3256 -  Rome instead of Lugdunum

Merci pour les corrections Barnaba
Si je n'ai pas entré les numéros que tu me cites de ta collection, c'est parce qu’ils sont déjà représenté par un exemplaire d'une autre collection. Pour l'instant, lorsqu'elles sont de type strictement identique, j'ajoute seulement les variantes de gravure de bustes ou si la monnaie est vraiment plus belle que celle déjà sur probuscoins.fr ou d'une très grande rareté. J'essaie en premier lieu de combler les types qui ne sont pas encore enregistrés. Lorsque j'aurai toutes les variantes (ce qui va prendre un certains temps !   ) je pourrai entrer des monnaies en double selon l'état de la monnaie déjà enregistré.
Mais, ce que je cherche avant tout, ce sont les nouveaux types (bustes, officines, émissions, etc...) non représenté sur probuscoins issues de ventes ou E-bay ou autres encore...

J'ai regardé les liens du 4e atelier oriental et j'en ai trouvé 2 que je n'avais pas encore répertorié. Merci.

Encore merci pour ton aide et j'en profite pour remercier encore tous ceux qui me signale une coquille, me donne des liens vers de nouveaux types et autres...

Christophe,

I was not aware of your new, strict selection criteria:) From now on I will take them into account and send you only links of coins which are not yet listed on your website.

However, even with your new criteria, I believe my coin no. 58 should be listed as the only other specimen of similar type currently listed is your great coin with a laurel wreath on the shield. Meanwhile my specimen has a Pegasus on the shield and thus has a different Alfoldi attribution than your coin.

As for my 4th oriental mint, I noted you ultimately added 3 of my coins, two of which were however already listed (so I assume you were interested in different dies in this case). Nevertheless I believe you still shoud add my B//XXI Restitvt Orbis coin, as it is not listed at all on your website yet:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6202&pos=12

Finally, as for rarity assessment, since Estiot only cites 2 specimens of the *//KA type in her corpus and Gysen recently commented on my FAC galery that my specimen is the 4th known to him (including his own and the specimens cited by Estiot) I think it's only fair to give both Gysen's and mine coin a R3 degree of rarity and not R1, at least until more specimens of this type are found.

Similarly, I believe that currently (i.e.before more specimens of this type are found) all coins from the 4th oriental mint with the Restitvt Orbis legend, regardless of the officina mark, should have at least a R1 degree note, not only "S". They are really quite rare on the market, many, many times rarer than the Clementia Avg reverse from the 3rd emmission and Estiot only cites from 3 to 10 specimens of this type depending on the officina.  

regards,

Barnaba

Here are a few highly interesting coins not listed yet on probuscoins.fr, either unique or known in less than 5 specimens, definitely worth adding to the database:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=673425

http://probvs.net/probvs/R723/R723v.190403.AC.JPG

https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=300&category=4419&lot=232684

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2148518

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=63698.msg397342#msg397342

http://coinvac.crabdance.com/73729/subcategory_id/150/page/0/period/roman_emperor/country_like/eBay/list_order/price/list_order_dir/desc/period/roman_emperor/

(if the link doesn't work than you need to copy/paste in directly in the internet engine and try again)

regards,

Barnaba

I checked my Lugudnum, Rome, Serdica and Cyzicus coins and found additional 6 coins that are unlisted in the database:


Lugdunum

1. Bastien 411:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6194&pos=79

Rome

2. MPR 249

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6195&pos=71

[Gysen’s current coin no. 671 is in fact MPR 244 (because it has divergent wreath ties) and not MPR 249 and after the correction a free slot in the database opens for my MPR 249 coin

http://probuscoins.fr/coin?id=671

3. MPR 477 VAR. IMP PR•BVS AVG (SIC!) – UNIQUE with a dot in the middle of the obverse legend to Gysen's, Jean's and my knowledge:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6195&pos=169

Cyzicus:

4. PROBUS RIC 904 WITH EMPEROR IN CHARRIOT (not simple horse) ON SHIELD - UNPUBLISHED AND UNIQUE SHIELD DECORATION to my and Gysen’s knowledge !!!
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6199&pos=6

Serdica:

5. Restitvtor Orbis / B Bust /KADelta
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6198&pos=42

6. RIC 880 E1 BUST VIR2 OFFICINA KAA
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6198&pos=110

***

Last but not least my coin no. 2741 is MPR 269 not 196

This is it for today. I am tired:)

Merci Barnaba, je regarderai ça ce week-end. Je finis de rentrer les monnaies extraordinaires de M.Vosper
PS: Tes liens vers ta collections ne sont pas bons, ils ne correspondent pas aux descriptions. mais ce n'est pas grave, je les retrouverai.
Quand aux quantum des monnaies de l'article de S.Estiot, il ne reflète pas à mon sens la réalité du 4e atelier.

pas mieux !

Christophe,
you're welcome.
Which links are not correct? I checked all the links from my today's posts just now and they all lead to the right coins.
As for Numbers of the 4th oriental mint I am curious on What you are basing your opinion? I note them very carefully in my database and must say that Estiot's numbers, especially the proportions of Numbers of specimens spread among the 4 emmissions, seem quite convincing and are reflected roughly in the same proportions on the market. Consequently 3rd emmission coins are very, very popular, equally popular as Antiochia's coins, 2nd emmission coins are extremely rare and first emmission and 4th emmission coins are either rare or scarce at least.

barnaba6 a écrit:

I checked my Lugudnum, Rome, Serdica and Cyzicus coins and found additional 6 coins that are unlisted in the database:


Lugdunum

1. Bastien 411:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6194&pos=79

Rome

2. MPR 249

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6195&pos=71

[Gysen’s current coin no. 671 is in fact MPR 244 (because it has divergent wreath ties) and not MPR 249 and after the correction a free slot in the database opens for my MPR 249 coin

http://probuscoins.fr/coin?id=671

3. MPR 477 VAR. IMP PR•BVS AVG (SIC!) – UNIQUE with a dot in the middle of the obverse legend to my and Gysen's knowledge:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6195&pos=169

Cyzicus:

4. PROBUS RIC 904 WITH EMPEROR IN CHARRIOT (not simple horse) ON SHIELD - UNPUBLISHED AND UNIQUE SHIELD DECORATION to my and Gysen’s knowledge !!!
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6199&pos=6

Serdica:

5. Restitvtor Orbis / B Bust /KADelta
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6198&pos=42

6. RIC 880 E1 BUST VIR2 OFFICINA KAA
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6198&pos=110

Aucune monnaie ne correspond au lien dessous (a part celle de P.Gysen sur prtobuscoins.fr ) !

I dont understand how it is possible. All the links work correctly when I press them and they lead to the correct coins. What is going on?

Cela ne fonctionne pas chez moi non plus - par exemple le lien qui mène à la bastien 411 amène à la bastien 315

le bon lien est celui ci
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-136446